U.S. Casualties Thus Far (from Bush's initial unilateral invasion on 3/20/03 through 12/3/03,
Include suicides, "accidents" and the utterly inane term for inadvertently killing your buddies - "friendly" fire. Also includes the U.S. soldier who went Tim McVey on his unit with the grenades:

441
(304 hostile, 137 non-hostile)

U.S. Casualties In VietNam from 12/11/61
(the date the U.S. Army declared it a "conflict") through 12/31/64
Yep, three whole years worth, with 17,000 U.S. troops engaged:

392

OK, the pedestal is now as vacant as Bush's Day-Planner for nationally-televised press conferences (he's had the fewest of any sitting President in the television era: look it up).

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